The Long Goodbye (Episode 413)
First Aired: Wednesday, 15th January, 2003
Writer: Jon Robin Baitz
Director: Alex Graves
Surprise! Expecting the transcript for The Long Goodbye? Well, unfortunately, we didn't get any Josh and Donna scenes this episode. Heck, we didn't get scenes with most of the cast this episode! But instead of leaving this page a big, white, blank space, I thought I would take the time to sift through my archives and come up with some some quirky facts that would do Donna proud and some interesting figures that would impress even the likes of Josh.
"I'm a fan--I'm a sports fan, I'm a music fan, and I'm a Star Trek fan. All of them. But here's what I don't do: 'Let's list our 10 favourite episodes. Let's list our least favourite episodes. Let's list our favourite galaxies. Let's make a chart to see how often our favourite galaxies appear in our favourite episodes. What Romulan would you most like to see coupled with a Cardassian, and why? Let's spend a weekend talking about Romulans falling in love with Cardassians, and then let's do it again.' (beat) That's not being a fan--that's having a fetish."
-- Josh, Arctic Radar
Well, gee, Josh, rain all over my parade there, why don't you ...
Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics: Adding Up The Numbers
A wise man (boy, really) once said, "If you want to convince me of something, show me numbers!" Happy to oblige, Mr. President.
Since the Pilot, there's barely an episode gone by where there hasn't been some sort of Josh and Donna interaction--their weekly doses of wit, wisdom and banter have become a West Wing institution. To wit: a handy-dandy chart detailing how many scenes Josh and Donna have had together per episode, per season.
Season 1: 2 / 4 / 5 / 2 / 1 / 3 / 5 / 3 / 5 / 3 / 3 / 2 / 2 / 5 / 1 / 3 / 2 / 5 / 3 / 4 / 3 / 2 = 68 scenes
Season 2: 0 / 2 / 1 / 1 / 2 / 4 / 3 / 0 / 4 / 3 / 6 / 2 / 6 / 4 / 4 / 1 / 3 / 5 / 4 / 1 / 1 / 1 = 58 scenes
Season 3: 4 / 3 / 1 / 2 / 6 / 2 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 1 / 2 / 3 / 3 / 1 / 5 / 3 / 4 / 3 / 1 / 3 / 3 / 1 = 60 scenes
Season 4: 12 / 6 / 2 / 3 / 3 / 0 / 2 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 2 / 4 / 0 / 3 / 2 / 1 / 2 / 2 / 4 / 4 / 1 / 0 / 1 = 66 scenes
Season 5: 7 / 3 / 2 / 4 / 7 / 7 / 4 / 5 / 3 / 3 / 6 / 2 / 3 / 3 / 4 / 4 / 2 / 6 / 0 / 7 / 3 / 2 / 5 = 92 scenes
Season 6: 3 / 0 / 4 / 2 / 5 / 4 / 2 / 5 / 4 / 0 / 2 / 0 / 1 / 0 / 0 / 2 / 1 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 2 / 0 = 37 scenes
Season 7: 1 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 2 / 0 / 1 / 4 / 1 / 0 / 5 / 6 / 0 / 7 / 9 / 9 / 3 / 5 / 0 /0 = 53 scenes
This adds up to a grand total of 434 scenes to date between the two of them since The West Wing debuted. This works out to approximately 62 scenes per season, or, based on a 22 episode season, roughly 2.8 scenes per episode.
Another way of looking at this is that Josh and Donna had approximately 3.1 scenes per episode in Season 1, 2.6 scenes per episode in Season 2, 2.7 scenes per episode in Season 3, 2.9 scenes per episode in Season 4 (It is perhaps interesting to note Season 3 actually had more scenes on average than Season 2, considering Season 3 is widely thought of to be a great disappointment for Josh and Donna fans, due to the introduction of third-party love interests Cliff Calley and Amy Gardner), 4.2 scenes per episode in Season 5 and 1.7 scenes per episode in Season 6. But numbers can be deceiving: Season 7 has just 2.5 scenes per episode, and yet it has more, um, "development" between Josh and Donna than all the others ...
While the quintessential Josh and Donna episode is arguably a three-way tie between The Cold or Election Day (I) and Transition, with 17 People and Gaza running neck-and-neck for second place, the episode with the most scenes between them is 20 Hours In America (I), clocking in with an impressive total of 12. (Note: this does not necessarily translate into the episode with the most onscreen time between them in terms of total minutes. Unfortunately, I don't have any numbers for that, but I would hazard a guess it's either 20 Hours in America (I) or Election Day (I).)
+6 Josh and Donna scenes: 8 episode
6 Josh and Donna scenes: 7 episodes
5 Josh and Donna scenes: 13 episodes
4 Josh and Donna scenes: 22 episodes
3 Josh and Donna scenes: 30 episodes
2 Josh and Donna scenes: 30 episodes
1 Josh and Donna scene: 21 episodes
0 Josh and Donna scenes: 22 episodes
For an explanation of the episodes with no Josh and Donna scenes, see the Gone Quiet section below.
Gone Quiet: When Aaron Sorkin and John Wells Forget To Bring The Josh And Donna
Much as it would be nice to have a guaranteed Josh and Donna story to look forward to every week, The West Wing is an ensemble show -- which is a great thing, as the cast is so incredibly talented and all the members play so well off each other. Still, this on occasion means our beloved dynamic duo gets shifted to the wayside for the sake of the greater good (storyline).
Here are all the episodes where Josh and Donna either don't appear, or appear but don't share exclusive scenes together complete with dialogue (what a waste!).
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In The Shadow Of Two Gunmen (Part I) (Season 2) -- Donna waits (and prays) with the rest of the Senior Staff in the waiting room while Josh is in surgery.
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Shibboleth (Season 2) -- In a short scene, Donna asks Sam, Josh and Toby where to put the Thanksgiving turkeys, but there is no actual dialogue between her and Josh, so it doesn't technically count.
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Game On (Season 4) -- Josh and Donna briefly stand together listening to the debate results, but the only conversation is Josh yelling "Game on!" to no one in particular.
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The Long Goodbye (Season 4) -- A C.J-centric episode in which Josh has a quick cameo, but Donna is nowhere to be found.
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Commencement (Season 4) -- There may not be any direct Josh and Donna involvement here, but the scenes Amy (of all people!) and Donna share where they discuss him more than make up for it.
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Access (Season 5) -- Yet another C.J-centric episode (don't get me started ...) in which Josh and Donna have brief but separate cameos. Bah.
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Gaza (Season 5) -- Ironically, Josh and Donna don't exchange a single word in this episode, yet it still remains one of the key Josh-and-Donna episodes of the entire series.
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The Birnam Wood (Season 6) -- With Josh in America and Donna in Germany, it was kind of hard to have any scenes between them, but regardless, Josh's feelings about Donna still managed to shine through.
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Faith Based Initiative (Season 6) -- Unfortuantely, Bradley Whitford's screenwriting debut did not result in any Josh and Donna scenes, but we did get a peek into how each of them is functioning without the other's presence.
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365 Days (Season 6) -- A White House-centric episode, which wouldn't be such a bad thing, if Josh and Donna weren't off on the campaign trail. Oh well.
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The Wake Up Call (Season 6) -- Another episode where the focus is on the White House and Josh and Donna are presumably out pressing flesh somewhere on the campaign trail (unfortunately, not each other's ...).
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Freedonia (Season 6) -- A campaign episode that featured Josh scenes and Donna scenes, but no Josh-and-Donna scenes ... and lest we forget (though I'm trying to), the return of She-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named. I ask you, where is the justice in this world?
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La Palabra (Season 6) -- Another campaign episode with some kick-arse scenes for Josh and for Donna, but sadly, not for Josh-and-Donna. Still worth a look-see, though.
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Ninety Miles Away (Season 6) -- Though Josh and Donna each briefly appear in this White House-centric episode, neither has anything to do with each other. Again. *Sigh*
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2162 Votes (Season 6) -- A good episode, even if the extent of Josh and Donna's interaction is their sharing of a wordless victory / conciliatory beer after Santos wins the Democratic nomination.
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The Mommy Problem (Season 7) -- After Josh's blunt--yet, arguably, necessary--refusal to hire Donna to work on Santos's campaign in the previous episode, is it any wonder Donna's licking her wounds off-screen this week?
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Message of the Week (Season 7) -- Josh's dismissal of Donna must have hurt her harder than we thought, because she's nowhere to be seen during this episode, either.
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Mr Frost (Season 7) -- Donna's still AWOL and Josh's still on the campaign trail.
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Here Today (Season 7) -- Josh needs to critically rethink the roles of numerous Santos campaign staff, but unfortunately his thoughts haven't led him to Donna ... yet.
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The Debate (Season 7) -- Sadly, there were no backstage Josh/Donna antics to be seen during this live debate episode between Presidential candidates Santos and Vinick.
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Internal Displacement (Season 7) -- Josh shows up at the White House to discuss the President helping Santos out with CJ and Will, but where's Donna? Probably off giving Helen tips on how to polish her image as a First Lady In Waiting ...
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Two Weeks Out (Season 7) -- Lots of Josh, but no Donna. S'okay. After last week, I like to think she's simply resting in her hotel room because he zapped her of her power by all the lovemaking. Hee.
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The Last Hurrah (Season 7) -- Neither the Chief of Staff-to-be nor his lovely girlfriend (fiancee? WIFE?) the First Lady's Chief of Staff-to-be were seen in this episode, which is strange as it focussed on choosing the new Vice President and showing the First Lady In Waiting around the White House -- events that Josh and Donna, in their new, er, positions, should have been present for. (I like to think they were still off vacationing somewhere, practicing a few new positions of their own ...)
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Institutional Memory (Season 7) -- Playing the roles of Josh and Donna in this episode were CJ and Danny, whose angst, kisses and resolution, whilst very sweet and worth watching, didn't hold a candle to Josh and Donna's.
The Short List: Must-See TV For Josh And Donna Fans
On the other hand, there are certain episodes where significant personal developments occur in the Josh and Donna universe. These are the ones you want to watch over and over again, memorizing every word, every look, every nuance. Bring it on!
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In Excelsis Deo (Season 1) -- A book, a mysterious inscription and a Christmastime hug that made us all warm and fuzzy inside.
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In The Shadow of Two Gunmen (II) (Season 2) -- How it all began.
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Galileo (Season 2) -- I don't know which is more adorable: Josh's "Let's put you on a stamp" comment, or Donna's flushed but clearly pleased "Okay" reply.
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The Portland Trip (Season 2) -- Donna's got a (not so) hot date, and the green-eyed monster rears his very ugly head.
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Noel (Season 2) -- On Christmas Eve, Josh falls apart and Donna (with a little help from Leo) holds him together. Worth watching for the very last scene alone.
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The War At Home (Season 2) -- "Believe me when I tell you that's not true." Joey Lucas lets the cat out of the bag, while Josh is in denial about a lot of things.
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17 People (Season 2) -- Flowers, a 'not anniversary' and red lights--from beginning to end, the quintessential Josh and Donna episode. (Not to mention, the other storylines with Toby and the MS, and Sam and Ainsley also rock.)
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On The Day Before (Season 3) -- The tie-tying scene in Josh's office is quite possibly about as intimate as two people can get fully clothed.
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War Crimes (Season 3) -- Secret diaries and secret deals ... it doesn't get much angstier than this.
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Arctic Radar (Season 4) -- Josh finally wakes up and smells the coffee (that Donna never brings him!).
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Holy Night (Season 4) -- "What did you mean when you said it's not what it looks like?" Josh avoids an awkward question from Donna, but can't hide the truth from Leo.
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Inauguration: Over There (Part II) (Season 4) -- "You look amazing." 'Nuff said.
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Evidence of Things Not Seen (Season 4) -- Flattery may not get you everywhere, but it certainly gets Josh all hot and bothered. Add to that Donna's worry over a potential PTSD incident, Josh's worry over a threatening letter, plus (another) cute Republican, and this is one you'll want to watch time and time again. (The other storylines are equally fantastic, too!)
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Disaster Relief (Season 5) -- While the President is off dealing with the fallout from a natural disaster in Oklahoma, Donna has her hands full dealing with the fallout from a disaster of Josh's own making.
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Abu El Banat (Season 5) -- Donna (who is "in charge" of shopping) and Josh argue over gift-giving and receiving like an old married couple. Heh.
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The Benign Prerogative (Season 5) -- Worth watching for Josh's whispered "I hope not" alone. :-)
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No Exit (Season 5) -- CJ and Donna have The Talk.
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Gaza (Season 5) -- Josh completely falls to pieces when Donna's life is in grave danger.
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NSF Thurmont (Season 6) -- "I'm still here." Indeed. Bradley Whitford deserves an Emmy for this one.
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Impact Winter (Season 6) -- The world is safe after asteroid destined for earth misses, but Josh realises his world may end when Donna quits.
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King Corn (Season 6) -- Awkward elevator conversations, longing looks and second thoughts make this one an angst-fest worth watching.
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The Ticket (Season 7) -- The personal and the political clash when Josh explains to Donna why he can't hire her to work on Santos's campaign. Though the ending of the scene is ultimately an unhappy one for shippers, it's worth it for the "And if you don't think I miss you every day ..." line alone. Stellar performances from both Janel Moloney and Bradley Whitford.
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The Al Smith Dinner (Season 7) -- Josh and Donna begin a precursor to The Talk. Alone together in a bedroom, no less. Heh.
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The Cold (Season 7) -- Alone together in a bedroom, again, but this time, they leapfrog over The Talk and just go straight to The Kiss. (squeee!) 17 People, move over. I think your reign as Best Josh And Donna Episode Ever has officially ended!
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Election Day (I) (Season 7) -- Josh and Donna FINALLY "come onboard". Twice.
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Election Day (II) (Season 7) -- In the aftermath of tragedy, Donna takes care of Josh, and in the aftermath of victory, he hugs her like he's never going to let her go.
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Transition (Season 7) -- This one has it all ... major kissage, nookie (albeit off screen), Assertive!Donna!, Besotted!Josh!, Epiphany!Josh, angst, humour, heartfelt declarations and a happily ever after (with yet more kissage) ... *sigh*. Quite possibly, the most perfect Josh/Donna episode, ever. (And as if all that weren't enough--Sam's back!!!)
A Proportional Response: Or, Scenes Where Others Call Them (mostly Josh!) On Their Feelings
One of the most endearing things about Josh and Donna's relationship is, as Bradley Whitford (Josh) once said, "(They are) two people who are just in their reptilian brain stems mad for each other, but they have no idea." Fortunately for our clueless twosome (and their fans!), there are numerous other characters on the show (including their own (ex) significant others!) who are more astute and more than willing to point out the increasingly obvious ...
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Joey Lucas's "100 Donnas" speech -- The War At Home (Season 2)
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Amy Gardner: "Are you dating your assistant?" -- The Women of Qumar (Season 3)
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Jack Reese: "Am I getting in between anything?" -- Arctic Radar (Season 4)
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Leo's "Was I insensitive before about telling you Donna was gone?" conversation -- Holy Night (Season 4)
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Danny's comment that "before the night's over we might have ourselves a whole new story." -- Inauguration: Over There (Part II) (Season 4)
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"Are you in love with Josh?" Whoever thought Amy Gardner would be the one to finally call Donna on her feelings? (Little did we know what the manipulative little cow would be up to a few episodes later, though.) -- Commencement (Season 4)
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"It's not the White House--it's him." CJ addresses the pink elephant sitting in corner for the past five years. -- No Exit (Season 5)
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"If there's someplace you'd rather be, everyone would understand." Leo urges Josh to follow his heart when tragedy strikes Donna. -- Gaza (Season 5)
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Colin's rather blunt "So you fly halfway around the world, at a moment's notice, to rush to a woman's bedside, when the White House is facing off a Biblical apocalypse?" observation gets Josh thinking. -- NSF Thurmont (Season 6)
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Even Lou, Santos's new Communicatons Director, knows these two have some sort of unresolved history to work out -- so she orders them to do so. -- The Al Smith Dinner (Season 7)
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"You're seeing Josh?" Will clues in on what's going on when Donna questions him about the impropriety of two coworkers getting romantically involved, followed by CJ's radar going off when she asks "Is the Josh thing going on?" after Donna starts babbling and blushing about the "nothing" that happened between her and Josh. -- The Cold (Season 7)
Game On: Banter, Misdirection, And When The Subtext Becomes Text
Blurring the lines between the professional and the personal, Josh and Donna's relationship exists in a dimension all by itself. While their storylines impressively cover the gamut from political situations to comic relief, it is their chemistry which makes every scene they share so engaging and captivating--a tantalizing blend of banter, misdirection and subtext, laced with that ever-present dollop of denial.
Banter
Come on, could you seriously picture Leo and Margaret, or Toby and Bonnie having conversations like these?
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The White House Pro-Am (Season 1)
JOSH: Why would anyone want to diminish a woman's sexual desire?
DONNA: We can get out of hand?
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Galileo (Season 2)
DONNA: Philately's fun, Josh.
JOSH: I'm sorry--what's fun?
DONNA: Philately. Stamp collecting.
JOSH: Careful how you say that, because--
DONNA: Can we work?
- 17 People (Season 2)
DONNA: I'm going to give you a little gift right now, which you don't deserve.
JOSH: Donna, if you've got your old Catholic school uniform on under there--don't get me wrong, I applaud the thought, but ...
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Bad Moon Rising (Season 2)
DONNA: AA's definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. I'm not cheap nor am I xenophobic, I just think it's time for some tough love.
JOSH: Well, not right here in front of everyone, Donna, but if you want to go home and grab your equipment ...
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The Black Vera Wang (Season 3)
DONNA: My man!
JOSH: Yes.
DONNA: You came back to me.
JOSH: Just like I promised.
DONNA: I missed you.
JOSH: When did you find you missed me the most?
DONNA: The nights.
JOSH: Of course.
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Evidence of Things Not Seen (Season 4)
DONNA: Can I say something?
JOSH: Yeah.
DONNA: This guy?
JOSH: Yeah?
DONNA: There are some who would consider him handsome--I don't personally, because you're the only one I think is handsome--
JOSH: Uh-huh.
DONNA: --but for the sake of appearances? Here around the office, so that people wouldn't suspect, I'd pretend I thought this guy was handsome if you hired him. Of course, all along it would be a lie, because of how handsome you are. (she leans in and speaks huskily, staring at him as he ties his tie) And powerful.
(A beat as Josh looks at her, slightly unnerved, not sure whether to take her seriously or not)
JOSH: (grins) Your sense of humour is a bit of a high-wire act, isn't it? You're really trying to thread the needle.
DONNA: And half of it you don't even get.
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Twenty Five (Season 4)
DONNA: Do you know how many faxes we've gotten in--do you know how many of them are from your insane groupies? The Lyman hos have chosen this time to let you know, via fax, should you be needing any physical comfort during this horrible time ... read that. (she hands him a fax) Do you like that? Is that what turns you on, you sickie?
JOSH: I didn't write this.
DONNA: Yeah, but they must sense it in you.
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The Stormy Present (Season 5)
DONNA: It worked on Freddy Briggs when I was sixteen--look what happened to him.
JOSH: Freddy Briggs?
DONNA: (she balances a hand on Josh's shoulder as she bends to fix her shoe strap. Josh's eyebrows shoot into his forehead) He was my first ... was he my first?
JOSH: Sixteen?
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Third-Day Story (Season 6)
JOSH: Even a fringe bill to ban marriage--they'll be re-enacting Caligula at the Republican convention.
DONNA: You'd look cute in a toga and a dog collar.
JOSH: Thank you.
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The Cold (Season 7)
Oh, where to even begin with this one? Pretty much the whole episode consists of Josh and Donna's subtext becoming text (and canon!)--from Donna's proffering of her hotel room keycard to Josh, to Josh's "apology" to Donna, to the actual kiss itself. Looks like that river in Egypt has finally run dry ...
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Election Day (I) (Season 7)
JOSH: Did you ever ... "come onboard"?
DONNA: No.
JOSH: Never had a campaign fling?
DONNA: No.
JOSH: Do you want another drink?
DONNA: No.
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Requiem (Season 7)
DONNA: Sarah's a doll.
JOSH: Stop.
DONNA: (smiling) Smart, cute, nice body--
JOSH: (smiling back) Okay, this is getting weird.
Misdirection
... is clearly a two-way street. When it comes to each other's love lives, on the surface Josh and Donna seemingly have opposite view points -- he's (mostly) dismissive of hers, she's (mostly) supportive of his. But dig a little deeper, and you'll find it's all just misdirection for how they really feel about each other.
When The Subtext Becomes Text
While Josh and Donna are all about the witty repartee and dizzyingly fast verbal volleys, sometimes what's implied can be more telling than what's actually said. There are lots of scenes that aren't necessarily about Josh and Donna interacting with one another directly, yet still offer some kind of insight into their relationship.
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Everyone else's reaction to Donna's presence, and her reaction to hearing Josh was shot -- In The Shadow of Two Gunmen (I) (Season 2)
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Donna implementing (and Toby adhering to!) "The Rules" during Josh's rehabilitation: The Midterms (Season 2)
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Josh's "Because I say so" speech to Matt Skinner -- The Portland Trip (Season 2)
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Leo's "She was the one who guessed" comment to Josh -- Noel (Season 2)
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Josh's "I don't get jealous" conversation with Sam -- The War At Home (Season 2)
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Josh asking Toby why Toby told Donna about "Sagittarius" -- 18th & Potomac (Season 2)
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Josh's "She's my assistant" non-response to Amy -- The Women of Qumar (Season 3)
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Josh's "Donna ... actually, first of all, Amy" faux pas at the First Lady's birthday party -- Dead Irish Writers (Season 3)
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Donna finding out from President Bartlet that Josh wrote the Molly Morello memo for her -- Stirred (Season 3)
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Josh's "So that's it. We're done talking about Donna" discussion with Jack Reese -- Arctic Radar (Season 4)
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Josh's Freudian slip about his (Donna's!) plans for the holidays -- Holy Night (Season 4)
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Josh's insistance that "This is better than good, it's the way it should be" to Leo -- Holy Night (Season 4)
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Josh's musings about wearing a military dress sabre of his own -- Inauguration (Part I) (Season 4)
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Josh bemoaning Donna's whereabouts to Toby (and Toby's repeated "Leave her alone"'s in reply) -- Inauguration: Over There (Part II) (Season 4)
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Josh's "I know women. I know what they like" comment -- Inauguration: Over There (Part II) (Season 4)
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Donna's "Well. A whole new chapter begins." comment -- Red Haven's On Fire (Season 4)
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Josh's out-of-left-field "How come you go out with so many Republicans?" question -- Angel Maintenance (Season 4)
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Donna's husky-voiced joking (or was she?) declaration that Josh is the only one she finds handsome. And powerful ... -- Evidence of Things Not Seen (Season 4)
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Donna's concern over a potential PSTD relapse for Josh after shots are fired at the press room -- Evidence of Things Not Seen (Season 4)
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Josh's worry over the threatening letter Donna received: "How can you not like Donna?" -- Evidence of Things Not Seen (Season 4)
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Josh's reaction when Donna thinks Joe Quincy coming clean about not voting for the President is "sweet", and Donna's quick rush to clarify that she didn't mean it was sweet to her -- Evidence of Things Not Seen (Season 4)
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"You have to get Josh." Donna reveals a little too much to Amy -- Commencement (Season 4)
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Donna's non-verbal but extremely telling reaction when Amy asks if she's in love with Josh -- Commencement (Season 4)
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Donna's thinly-veiled jealousy over Josh's stargazing with the attractive female NASA administrator -- The Warfare of Genghis Khan (Season 5)
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CJ's "I don't blame Josh. It takes two of you--you choose to stay." comment (amongst others) in No Exit (Season 5)
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Toby's observation that Magley from the DNC didn't call Josh following the explosion, as Magley "thought Josh would be upset Donna was in the car." Gaza (Season 5)
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Josh's jealousy over Donna's "IRA boyfriend" and his interest in seduction--er, sedition. The Birnam Wood (Season 6)
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CJ says a thousand things without saying a word when Josh tells her he is going to meet Donna's plane. Third Day Story (Season 6)
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Josh's grief when he realises Donna really did quit is almost like Gaza all over again. Impact Winter (Season 6)
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While Will wonders about turf wars and retribution for "poaching" Donna, Toby cuts straight to the chase and just tells Josh (repeatedly!) to call her. Faith Based Initiative (Season 6)
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Donna's "No! No, no, no. Nothing's going on. It's nothing. We just had an odd moment today" speech to CJ, and her fishing expedition with Will regarding co-workers who date in The Cold (Season 7)
They Shall, From Time To Time: Use Of Each Other's Full Names
Donnatella. Joshua.
In the world of fan fiction, these names seem to crop up endlessly. But on The West Wing, Josh has actually only spoken the word "Donnatella" six times in five seasons (of which, two utterances weren't even in Donna's presence). And, as far as I can surmise, Donna has only uttered "Joshua" four times in front of the cameras.
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JOSH: Close the door. Donnatella Moss, when did you start working for me? -- Pilot (Season 1)
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JOSH: Donnatella Moss! -- The State Dinner (Season 1)
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JOSH: Interpreting the classics with Poet Laureate, Donnatella Moss. -- 20 Hours In LA (Season 1)
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JOSH: Because in the world of Donnatella Moss, we should all love one another--just so long as it doesn't cost you anything. -- Bad Moon Rising (Season 2)
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JOSH: (to Jack Reese) So, that's it. We're done talking about Donna. Whose full name is Donnatella, by the way. Her mom's Italian, dad's Irish. Okay ... thanks. -- Arctic Radar (Season 4)
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JOSH: Moss! Moss! Donnatella Moss! Tall ... blonde ... do you have any idea of her condition, where she was taken? I understand--is there anyone there--yeah, this is Josh Lyman calling from the White House. The White House. Yes! Where the President lives! I'm looking for information about one of the US bombing victims, Donnatella Moss! -- Gaza (Season 5)
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JOSH: Zao Chen Hao, Donnatella! -- A Change Is Gonna Come (Season 6)
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DONNA: (off-screen) Keep your pants on, Joshua! I'm on my way! -- The Short List (Season 1)
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DONNA: If you got married, you'd be Joshua and Josephine Lucas-Lyman. You wouldn't have to get your towels remonogrammed. -- The War at Home (Season 2)
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DONNA: Joshua, Josh, Josh. -- 17 People (Season 2)
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DONNA: If anything ever happened to me, chances are it's going to be when I'm sitting next to you and I'm going to be an also-dead. "Senior Bartlet advisor Joshua Lyman killed by a pack of wild dogs ... also dead, Dianne Moss."-- Angel Maintenance (Season 4)
The Crackpot and This Woman: Nicknames
With the possible exception of the First Couple, no other two characters on The West Wing refer to each other by nicknames as much as Josh and Donna do. What's particularly interesting to note is the increase in cutsey names since Season 4. I'm just sayin' ...
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JOSH: Interpreting the classics with Poet Laureate, Donnatella Moss. -- 20 Hours In LA (Season 1)
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DONNA: Well, do it, baby! -- Let Bartlet Be Bartlet (Season 1)
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JOSH: Hey! Norma Rae! Get in here! -- The Lame Duck Congress (Season 2)
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DONNA: I'm calling you Deputy Downer from now on. -- The Portland Trip (Season 2)
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DONNA: Precedent, baby! -- Galileo (Season 2)
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JOSH: You know what, Ado Annie? I sent you flowers. I think what you're trying to say is, 'Why, thank you, Josh, they're beautiful! How very thoughtful of you! Not many bosses would have been that thoughtful! -- 17 People (Season 2)
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DONNA: White collar crime boy! -- Ways And Means (Season 3)
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JOSH: Jojo? -- The Black Vera Wang (Season 3)
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DONNA: Yeah ... it's going to be Bambiesque. But on your good days I'm calling you Abner, because you stepped into the White House and didn't flinch. -- Debate Camp (Season 4)
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DONNA: Pumpkin patch, is there anything I can do to get you to go to the movies for eight hours? -- Election Night (Season 4)
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JOSH: Everything you just had in there is a good thing. And just by saying it like Ethel Mertz doesn't make ... -- Swiss Diplomacy (Season 4)
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JOSH: Well, good one, Gracie. -- Swiss Diplomacy (Season 4)
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JOSH: Okay. (laughs) I know you like to hit with me, but you've got to go sit in the back of class. Because you just suggested that making only $150,000 was reasonable justification for commiting a felony. Which is what it is, Lulu! -- Swiss Diplomacy (Season 4)
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DONNA: Josh ... I'm sorry. Seriously. I've never lied to you before, boss, and it won't happen again. -- Inauguration: Over There (Part II) (Season 4)
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JOSH: Hey, what did I say about speaking to me without addressing me as "Wild Thing"? -- Inauguration: Over There (Part II) (Season 4)
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JOSH: Hey, Trotsky. -- Red Haven's On Fire (Season 4)
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JOSH: Harpo speaks. -- Talking Points (Season 5)
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JOSH: Tell Miss Mozzarella a pack of wild bison on stilts couldn't drag me to your party. -- Talking Points (Season 5)
- JOSH: That's Donna. The ... Dairy Queen. Donna Moss! What-what happened to our fortysomething soccer mom? -- The Al Smith Dinner (Season 7)
Canon Fodder: Flakey, Endearing And Unique Josh-And-Donna Quirks
In Arctic Radar, Josh mentions some quirky little things about Donna he finds endearing, much to her chagrin--she thinks they make her sound flakey. Yet it is precisely because of this flakiness that he finds her so endearing in the first place. (Us too!) Though to be fair, Josh isn't without his own endearing little quirks that make him so uniquely, well, "him", as Donna is fond of saying.
Here's a collection of all the quirky little things that make Josh and Donna so endearingly and uniquely Josh-and-Donna.
Note: This page is a work in progress. All information is up-to-date as of the current episode, but is subject to change on a weekly basis.
RIP John Spencer 1946 - 2005